EMTBravo

I've recently fixed a major problem with the registration system that has been going on for quite a while.
If you've tried to register in the past and have been unable to, please try again. 
If you continue to have difficulties, please email me at seth@emtbravo.com
I apologize for this issue,
Seth

  The Mayor's budget books are good reference, but not necessarily the final word on how the Fire Department allocates the MICLA funding. There are also LAFD budget requests books, which are not at all an indication of all that will be ordered. They are more of a reflection of needs, or a wish list if you prefer. Don't forget the 2013-14 City budget has also been adopted.

I think Chula Vista got 307.

so who got OES 307?

Do you know much detail on the new "patrol" rig soon to go into service at 2's in Lakeside?   Other interesting things in Heartland Fire & Rescue is the new El Cajon Pierce E6 was just placed into service, and I believe then new rescue-pumper (Pierce) for La Mesa (E12) should be delivered, if not already.  Thx. 

This is old San Miguel OES 305 that used to belong to East County Fire then moved to Station 22 after the merger. Since San Miguel became part of Cal Fire, the department lost it's 2 OES Engines (305, 307). Lakeside has now acquired OES 305 which will be stationed at Station 26 in Blossom Valley and crossed staffed with E26. The old BME brush engine (BR26) is now at Station 1 as Brush 1 due to the arrival of the OES at Station 26.

Is this new or what http://lakesidefiredist.blogspot.com/2013/07/lakeside-fire-receives-oes-engine.html what station is it going to be station at?

When/if you make it to the interview, make sure you have a list of what relatives you have on the department,
they ask that you include there rank and there years with department.  

All Ladder Co's have midmount Ladder Towers except L1 & L22 have Rear mount Ladder Towers and L9 has a  Bronto Skylift
 
Reserve Fleet  has 4 Tiller Ladders, 1 Mid Mount Ladder Tower  & 1 rear Mount Ladder Tower  

Who responds to the east end of Mesa for Truck coverage or does the second due Engine there act as a Truck?
The east end of town is where is there are the largest gaps in coverage. 

War dog I can't read your post it's too light in green. Try using  a darker color.

Florence is copying Mesa with the quints, one currently in service as Ladder 542 and it will be going in to the new station that is being built from plans borrowed from Mesa. Then a new one is on order that will go in to quarters in the Magma Ranch area as Ladder 543, using Ladder 542's current mobile home until they can get approval to build station 3. I heard that they were thinking of going to Mesa for dispatch also, have set their radios up for it, but for present because they mostly run mutual aid with Rural Metro, they are staying on VHF and having their PD dispatch the FD. Rural covers San Tan Valley with 3 engine companies, (and are looking to put a fourth in service if someone donates a station or land) so Florence realized that a second quint was the best way to increase capabilities in the far southeast valley. The next closest ladder would be one of Gilbert's (20-60 minutes away) or Mesa's (same time frame for most to the area when 220 goes in service) so having the second quint will help this area continue to develop and grow.
 
Rural Metro is in two stations that communities built for their future fire departments in the Johnson Ranch subdivision (841, a very small 2 bay station) and in the Copper Basin subdivision (843, large nice 3 bay station). The third company (842) is in a small industrial area right on the border of Queen Creek using a mobile home for the station. All 3 are usually very busy covering the 80,000+ residents of unincorporated San Tan Valley.

I believe that back in the 90's, the LAFD did borrow a rear mount  ladder truck from the Anaheim FD, to try this concept again (FS 73), but I guess they shelved that idea again.

the answer for the Scottdale Ladders is:  Scottsdale moved them around a while back for better coverage, Ladder 602 is a dry tower downtown with Engine 602, L603 was moved to Station 606 as a stand alone company (tower quint and LT), L604 was moved north to 616 also stand alone (75' quint) and L611 stayed in place. Also technically Mesa now has six ladder companies if you inc. LT220 (201, 204, 206, 209, 214 all 85' tower quints). Ladder Tender 220 running a Engine with extra gear.

Mesabill I had made a mistake it is Station 6 and not 4 that was running with a 75 foot Aerial Ladder/Quint. I also think that you really meant that  station 606 and not 616 runs with a Ladder/Quint.  Am I correct?

Seth you asked the question that I have been wondering about for years. It is true that LA county did purchase two Tower Ladders some time ago and they did have at least one of them on reserve status. I had gotten in trouble several years ago for questioning LA City's refusal to try Tower Ladders so apparently they are happy using a 100 % tillered aerial fleet.
I believe that they find it simpler to use a standardized fleet of Trucks and also there are some areas in the Hollywood Hills and  mountain areas where maneuverability may be a problem for Tower Ladders and Tillered Aerials are able to get through the winding and narrow streets.
 As far not using Tower Ladders for the rest of city it really shouldn't be a problem as like was already  mentioned Long Beach has been using a Tower Ladder in it's fleet for quite a few years already. Huntington Beach was also using a Tower Ladder as do a few other towns in Southern California,
 I have do have a theory however. In 1970 Los Angeles  did have two large 85 foot Snorkel companies with one at Station 3 and one at Station 27. On July 5th 1970 Snorkel 3 had flipped over when it was extended at a reported fire on the eighth floor of a Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles. Fire fighter Thomas Collier was killed.
It turned out that one of the outriggers wasn't fully extended after an investigation as to the cause of the accident. Right after the accident Snorkel 27 was also taken out of service and neither of the two Large Snorkel were ever put in back in service. The Los Angeles City fire department did continue using four ,50 foot Snorkels that were assigned as Wagons on 4 of the 5 Heavy Duty Task Forces that were downgraded to conventional Task Forces in 1978. Two of the 50 foot Snorkels were then removed and their Engines were converted to standard Engines and the other two 50 foot Snorkels  were reassigned to to other fire stations such as 95 and 40 where they ran until the mid 1980's.
  I believe that the Los Angeles Fire Department management had developed an aversion to High Aerial Platforms  after the accident n 1970 and since then it has been institutionalized. Other wise I think that the LAFD would have at least tried using a Tower Ladder by now. It still is true however that in the Santa Monica mountains the Tillered Aerials may be the only type of Ladder apparatus that can negotiate some of the roads so if they did  use a Tower Ladder they might be restricted to what roads it would have access to in the mountains.
 

Why did Phoenix stop using tillers? And go to all rearmounts. Thanks..

Mesabill , Does Scottsdale have 4 or 5 Ladder companies? I had thought that there were Truck companies at Stations 2 , 3, 4 and 11. I didn't know about one being at Station 16.
If I'm correct the Trucks at Stations 2 and 3 are Tower Ladders and they also have an Engine company assigned to them while the ones at Stations 4 and 11 are actually 75 foot Aerial Ladder/Quints that also run as Truck companies when following neighboring Engine companies, Am I correct? I'm from out of town so I don't always have the latest information about what's going on in the Phoenix area. I'm quite impressed on many of the departments in your area have large fleets of Tower Ladders and how some departments are even using Bronto Skylifts.

Here in Phoenix Metro almost all frontline Ladder Companies are Tower Ladders, Phoenix runs 14 Ladder Co.'s 13 are towers and one bronto, all 5 Mesa Ladder Co.'s are 85' towers. The few straight ladders are Buckeye L703, AJ L264, Scottsdale L611 and L616 and a few reserve/spare ladders. Tucson is a Mix, couple towers and several rear mounts, Buckeye L703 only frontline tiller.

 
La Verne has a tower.

I think that the majority of West Coast Departments and Hawaii are going to continue to use TDA's as their Trucks instead of Towers. Every Department seems to be happy with their TDA concept with the exception of Orange County CA  and San Diego Fire Departments since both of them seem to be continuing with ordering Rear Mount Aerials or  Platforms.

Believe that OCFA has some towers, Long Beach has one, I think.
The east coast departments are all using at least some towers in their fleets. Boston has three now
and FDNY, almost 1/3 of their aerials are towers.
 
As info, latest roster for Manhattan aerials(32) :
13 towers (mostly 75' (3 are 95')
14 rear mounts
5 TDAs
 
on multiple alarms fires, I have often heard the ICs call for additional towers when rescues are needed
so the east coast is seeing the advantage of towers, west coast not so much at this point

Long Beach Fire Dept has one or two tower ladders in service.

Back in the 80's. LACo used rearmount tower ladders. They nicked named them the crain as they are so large. Now county is all tillers with the exception of a few rearmount quints. Even the tillers are quints. San Deigo only has one tiller.

I don't think it's so much of an LAFD thing as it is a California thing.  California's terrain, call nature, and ever-changing DMV requirements  make it difficult to run some sort of tower ladder for 15 or 20 years.  Look at the big metro areas San Fran, Oakland, LA City, LA County, San Diego and they all run tillers.  They all have hills, most fires aerial require ladder access and often don't get to a defensive mode, plus high call volumes, and the vehicle weight (weight per axle) is more manageable for California.  If you look at LA City's Flickr page you'll see them take their tillers everywhere.  Even tight mountain roads.