Posted August 5, 2016 I've heard pierce won the engine bid. Any info on a timeline for when the rigs will start production? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 5, 2016 From past contracts & experience, the new Pierce Engines will hit the stations in about a year or a little more than a year. Once they are built, they come to the shops, inspected and tested. Then to the radio shops, then hit the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 5, 2016 JNP is right. they'll be on the street between next summer and the end of 2017. Seems like squad 21 should be up for replacement. Their call volume increased dramatically since the move to 21s and being the only fully manned squad in the city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 5, 2016 Hopefully they'll restaff the other Squads in a couple of years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 Cancelled the remaining KME's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 Cancelled the remaining KME's. Really, that is interesting. Guess LAFD weren't happy? Kind of odd since KME was awarded the contract in 2013 for 11 more engines (not sure how many were delivered) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 the time frame for delivery is much longer than that, currently pierce is running about 14 to 16 months from the time the rig gets put on the production line to blue floor, factor in holiidays , parts shortages, production line stoppage for rigs to be pulled off . once they hit the blue floor for final inspection, any changes, additions or problems noted will add time in Appleton. once city accecpts the rigs, they have to schedule them to be driven cross country from wisconsion to California, where they will be delivered to south coast equipment in Ontario ca, once there depending on how busy they are (south coast covers all of so cal and usually has anywhere from 30 -50 rigs there for different things) more service work is completed, if problems cannot be corrected there they go back to wisconsion. when completed then they get delivered to the shops where they can sit for additional time until they have time to work on them. just look at the new trucks and see how long it has taken to get them right and in service Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 I was driving to Las Vegas back in May and I saw several semi trucks with fire engines and so single frame trucks on trailers going the opposite direction not sure what department they were for or what make. Do sometimes they are trucked out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 Who's the department that took a retired TDA and took the ladder off and converted the trailer into a USAR or heavy rescue? I cannot recall but memory might suggest the tractor was a Seagrave. Not a bad idea when you are trying to cut costs down and want great storage capacity in the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 Orange City Fire Department in Orange County, CA. Rescue51 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2016 Thanks RicardoBerg. Found a pic, credit to:http://www.absoluterescue.com/vehicle/experience-training-and-usar-equipment/ ~Rescue51 Monrovia1 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2016 The Orange City Seagrave TD Heavy Rescue, was NEVER an aerial. Orange City spece'd that rig like that , and built as such. Purchased brand new by Orange City F.D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2016 Many departments have gone with the tractor trailer combination for their Heavy Rescue/USAR rigs including Pasadena, LA County, Alhambra, and El Segundo Fire Departments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 8, 2016 I'm not sure LAFD cancelled the contract but from what I knew it was only a 5 year deal with the option to extend. Does anyone know the specs for the new engines. I'm curious as to what chassis they may choose. I'm sure you guys have notice a lot of departments have been going with the Impel, Dash, or PUC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 9, 2016 I am sure la city will be going with the arrow xt just as the did with the previous engines. from a use standpoint the impel does not hold up as well as the xt. pierce no longer makes a dash model, the stopped production of them back in 2008. there is a dash cf model which is kind of a recreation of the original arrow from the late 70-80's but is quite expensive. as for the puc , I don't think la city would buy off on them because of the way city does not use pre connects, but pulls the amount of hand line needed and connects it to a discharge on the pump panel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 14, 2016 The Pierce Arrow XT was designed with LAFD in mind. Basically designed to their spec. The original literature with the prototype was an LAFD spec engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 18, 2016 Just curious as to if LAFD will buy Seagraves again. mr.ranger likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 18, 2016 If the can meet the specs and be the lowest bidder than yes lafd would buy seagraves again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2016 Many departments have gone with the tractor trailer combination for their Heavy Rescue/USAR rigs including Pasadena, LA County, Alhambra, and El Segundo Fire Departments. Forgot to mention Long Beach as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 30, 2016 On 8/17/2016 at 8:31 PM, mr.ranger said: If the can meet the specs and be the lowest bidder than yes lafd would buy seagraves again. that probally won't happen as seagrave has priced themselves out of the market. several departments that used to be loyal to seagrave are now going to other makers because they are to expensive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 30, 2016 2 hours ago, joeyk48 said: that probally won't happen as seagrave has priced themselves out of the market. several departments that used to be loyal to seagrave are now going to other makers because they are to expensive I wouldn't be surprised if Seagrave in the coming years go the way of the Do do like American La France Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 30, 2016 FDNY recently ordered a bunch of Seagraves from what I heard and are going back to Seagraves so I wouldn't doubt that Seagrave will be going out of business in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 30, 2016 Any idea on the first batch of Pierce engines ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites