LAFD New Equipment

[mikesaccount 4]

Is there any idea of when we'll see the new ladder trucks hit the streets and at what stations

[h_par202 7]

Not my photo. Saw this in a Facebook group. I thought the LAX engine was canceled?

[mikesaccount 4]

Have any of the new truck gone into service yet

[fireag 0]

No. warranty problems are keeping them from service like the previous batch.

[x635 31]

I really hope LAFD returns to Seagrave. 

[mikesaccount 4]

How did they like KME's

[firepost 15]

On 7/15/2020 at 7:35 AM, x635 said:

I really hope LAFD returns to Seagrave. 

Perhaps the LAFD would eventually order Seagrave Engines again however believe it or not its been thirty years since the Lafd last ordered a Seagrave Aerial Ladder. It's only been 14 years since the LAFD last received new Seagrave Engines. It seems as if Seagrave had priced themselves out of the Aerial Ladder Market in Los Angeles years ago.

[mikesaccount 4]

perhaps someday LAFD may go with Spartan Motors for there Aerials that manufacture features the LTI ladders

[h_par202 7]

On 7/15/2020 at 8:35 AM, x635 said:

I really hope LAFD returns to Seagrave. 

I. Second. This.

[h_par202 7]

LAFD new E51 (SN: 60873)!

Also, there's 2 more engines listed on the Flickr page with the shop numbers 60874 and 60875 (assignments unknown).

 

[firepost 15]

Those are really nice shots of the new apparatus. I  hope that they perform as good as they look as according to a previous post  there has been another delaying in getting some of the new rigs delivered due to "Warranty Work".

 

[h_par202 7]

3 minutes ago, firepost said:

Those are really nice shots of the new apparatus. I  hope that they perform as good as they look as according to a previous post  there has been another delaying in getting some of the new rigs delivered due to "Warranty Work".

 

They are! I did hear about the warranty work.. hopefully it's nothing serious

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14 minutes ago, h_par202 said:

They are! I did hear about the warranty work.. hopefully it's nothing serious

Yes because the sooner they get the new rigs  delivered and on the street the better. Speaking of new rigs. I know that over the last 3 years the LA City fire department finally started putting some Engine companies back in service that were taken out of service during the recession and about a year ago a Ladder or Truck company (Light Force 38) was put back  in service however it would be good if they started formulating plans to put several other Light Forces back in service as before the recession there were 49 Trucks in service and now there are 43. I don't understand why they took Light Force 28 out of service and replaced it with an Engine especially if you consider that was in one of the newest fire stations at the time and they really weren't far from Engine 8. You would figure with 2 stations near each other they would let Station 28 keep the Light Force while Station 8 would keep the Engine as a Light Force can operate as both an Engine or as a Truck company. I also know that LA CIty lost 2 Battalion Chiefs as well as several EMS field supervisors too.

Edited July 28, 2020 by firepost

[h_par202 7]

11 minutes ago, firepost said:

Yes because the sooner they get the new rigs  delivered and on the street the better. Speaking of new rigs. I know that over the last 3 years the LA City fire department finally started putting some Engine companies back in service that were taken out of service during the recession and about a year ago a Ladder or Truck company (Light Force 38) was put back  in service however it would be good if they started formulating plans to put several other Light Forces back in service as before the recession there were 49 Trucks in service and now there are 43. I don't understand why they took Light Force 28 out of service and replaced it with an Engine especially if you consider that was in one of the newest fire stations at the time and they really weren't far from Engine 8. You would figure with 2 stations near each other they would let Station 28 keep the Light Force while Station 8 would keep the Engine as a Light Force can operate as both an Engine or as a Truck company. I also know that LA CIty lost 2 Battalion Chiefs as well as several EMS field supervisors too.

Very true! I too would like to see companies re-established! 

[Rescue51 44]

So in the case of LAFD's Engine 51, for KLAX, my understanding is the reason these rigs are painted lime, is that because they provide service to an airport, the FAA kicks in some funding for the rig (I do not know how much), but to do so, the rig must be painted lime.  Not my favorite color, but with the blue strips, it actually looks good!  I prefer yellow over lime if it is not red.  Interesting all the California OES rigs are also lime (or most of them). 

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1 hour ago, Rescue51 said:

So in the case of LAFD's Engine 51, for KLAX, my understanding is the reason these rigs are painted lime, is that because they provide service to an airport, the FAA kicks in some funding for the rig (I do not know how much), but to do so, the rig must be painted lime.  Not my favorite color, but with the blue strips, it actually looks good!  I prefer yellow over lime if it is not red.  Interesting all the California OES rigs are also lime (or most of them). 

Yes you are right that if it is an "Airport company"they are required to be painted Lime or Yellow as it is a "Federal Regulation". One thing that they are lucky about however is the LA city station 95 seems to "technically speaking" be on Airport property yet the vehicles at that Station aren't required to be painted Lime or Yellow so everyone located there is Red and White.

[pump305 32]

My understanding is if the airport buys or helps with the payment of such apparatus. Lime Yellow is the color to be at an International airport. If the dept buys their own apparatus then red or any color they choose. Example: Ontario International is now operated by Ontario FD. Red is the color on the ARFF trucks as they own the apparatus.

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2 hours ago, pump305 said:

My understanding is if the airport buys or helps with the payment of such apparatus. Lime Yellow is the color to be at an International airport. If the dept buys their own apparatus then red or any color they choose. Example: Ontario International is now operated by Ontario FD. Red is the color on the ARFF trucks as they own the apparatus.

Thanks for the information.

[Jwimig 18]

You are correct:  Through Advisory Circular "AC" 150/5210-5D, the FAA mandates vehicles funded with federal grant monies through the Airport Improvement Program (AIP) and/or with revenue from the Passenger Facility Charges (PFC) Program must meet certain requirements for color, markings, lighting, striping, etc...

a.                   Airport Emergency Vehicles.

(2)                Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting (ARFF) Vehicles.  Yellowish-green is the vehicle color standard.  Color specifications are per Appendix A.

NOTE:  A yellowish-green color provides optimum visibility during all light levels encountered during a 24-hour day and under variations of light that result from weather and seasonal changes. 

 

Edited August 3, 2020 by Jwimig

[h_par202 7]

 

So very happy to see "City" bacon the rigs!

[EMT_FS46 23]

I must say it feels great to see City backon rigs again. I always thought it was dumb that they took it off due to the San Fernando Valley trying to separate from the City of Los Angeles.

[EMT_FS46 23]

New truck 85 and 88

[Monrovia1 21]

In the upcoming Fiscal year LAFD is asking for $20 Million in MICLA funding to purchase 1 TDA,4 Engines, 2 Brush Patrols, 20 Ambulances, 

For the full list Page 384 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IypaSg5kJQ1G8H9Jiy7Ru34TOsiDSiRR/view

[EMT_FS46 23]

 To sure but That 1 ladder truck maybe truck 9s replacement 

[mikesaccount 4]

I was by station 88 yesterday and saw there ALF truck still there