Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Phoenix is ordering 7 New Pumpers, 5 New Ladders, 1 New Ladder Tender, & 1 New Global Striker, Edited July 4, 2019 by GilbertFIRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 7, 2019 Do you think Phoenix will ever return to Tillers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2019 Phoenix has only ordered 4 engines. They will be similiar to E13 but Impels instead of Velocity. 45° front bumpers, valve for deck gun near deck gun (1 man operation instead), vertical exhaust stack, no Telma. No other rigs ordered at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, NJtoAZ said: Phoenix has only ordered 4 engines. They will be similiar to E13 but Impels instead of Velocity. 45° front bumpers, valve for deck gun near deck gun (1 man operation instead), vertical exhaust stack, no Telma. No other rigs ordered at this time. July 3rd's meeting council approved funding for 7 pumpers, 5 Ladders, 1 LT, Striker Edited July 10, 2019 by GilbertFIRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2019 Funding approved for fiscal 2019-2020. Nothing ordered except the 4 Impels at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) tks for the update, I think the 4 Impels are coming from money approved for apparatus in FY2018/19 budget, Edited July 10, 2019 by GilbertFIRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 17, 2019 Most recent update: Money will go towards 10 new pumpers. A fleet of red cars. 2 ladder tender type bodies built by shops. Year after, 10 more pumpers, 3-5 tower ladders, 2-4 brush trucks. Things change weekly and until order is placed, we never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 17, 2019 I don't understand why Phoenix Fire doesn't have their own helicopter. San Diego has 3, yet PFD has to rely on the PD for help with brush fires. I just don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 17, 2019 Phoenix needs replacement apparatus, replaced stations, new stations/companies, and about 20 new dispatchers before they can think about a helicopter!. NJtoAZ likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 17, 2019 They should invest in an md 500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 18, 2019 They should consider a Harrier. And taxis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 18, 2019 Nah harriers are going away f35b is the better way to go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 3 new Dodge Ram / Demers are in upfitting at shops. R19, R55, and 3rd tba. 2020 will bring 11 more rescues. 4 Pierce Impel engines have gone through final inspection and delivery will be very soon. Assignments tba. 2020 will bring 5 more Pierce Impel engines and 5 Rosenbauer Commander engines. A couple new staff vehicles have arrived and Car 1 received an unmarked Chevy Tahoe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 So I guess the Rosenbauer trial at 25s went well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, NJtoAZ said: 3 new Dodge Ram / Demers are in upfitting at shops. R19, R55, and 3rd tba. 2020 will bring 11 more rescues. 4 Pierce Impel engines have gone through final inspection and delivery will be very soon. Assignments tba. 2020 will bring 5 more Pierce Impel engines and 5 Rosenbauer Commander engines. A couple new staff vehicles have arrived and Car 1 received an unmarked Chevy Tahoe. No Ascendant Aerial Platforms ? Maybe in 2021 then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 Maybe because you can get 5 Commanders for the Price of 3 Impels and it frees up money for more new rescues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, GilbertFIRE said: No Ascendant Aerial Platforms ? Maybe in 2021 then Not this year. Maybe big changes for ladders in Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, buckeyefyrfoto said: So I guess the Rosenbauer trial at 25s went well. Not as good as they would have liked but splitting differences kind of like LA City or DC. They are very cautious to never have another ALF situation again. But I guess they can keep waiting for months as deliveries from Rosenbauer keep getting delayed. Multiple issues with Rosenbauers in valley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 On 7/17/2019 at 3:31 PM, Stinger said: They should invest in an md 500 A MD-500 is not the right copter for firefighting and rescue. It does not have enough payload for firefighting and barely enough payload/capacity to be a rescue/MedEvac copter. Phoenix gets hot, has nearby mountains, so a MD-500 is not a good hot/high/heavy bird either. MD-500's make suitable police patrol copters, and even most departments have gone to or going to more modern and capable copters for policing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2019 17 hours ago, GilbertFIRE said: Maybe because you can get 5 Commanders for the Price of 3 Impels and it frees up money for more new rescues Good point. I like competition for Pierce. The only way some of the competitors were going to survive Pierce was to consolidate like REV Group did with the portfolio of brands/manufacturers they purchased (E-One, KME & Ferrara). I would love to see Seagrave and Stephen become stronger competitors. I think Spartan buying Smeal was a good move! There is a reason Pierce is #1: quality, likeability, meeting delivery schedules fairly well, and more. The price points of Pierce are higher, but if the rig stays in service without mechanicals (% dispatch reliability), this is better for fire service not to mention costs. If the rig outlasts competition for useful life without retirement, that is better and represents a cost savings. If the rig retains a better re$ale value after retirement, that too is overall a contributor to the aggregate cost savings of a more reliable machine. After a few or even many years in service, it will be interesting to compare the Commander to the Impel, for Phoenix FD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2020 One 8x8 Oshkosh 4500 with HRET will be delivered late 3rd quarter to early 4th quarter. 2nd Oshkosh will be ordered end of year for 2021 delivery. New Squad 19 in talks for 2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 16, 2020 Not really an apparatus news item, but Phoenix is adding a new Battalion soon (BC-9). Battalion 1 will move to Station 1, BC 9 will be at Station...9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 17, 2020 NDC will become BC4. SDC will become BC1. The C957s will become FITs on BC2 and BC3. District Deputy Chiefs, DC1-5, will get FITs and run calls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
