Rescue51

Ford chassis. Nice paint scheme. As seen two weeks ago in Alpine. Were they at Starbucks or McDonald's? We'll have to figure that out. )

I have a few photos I take from now and then. One recent one is the new Medic 17 operated by Mercy at Alpine's station 17's. But the problem with posting any pics in this forum is it appears you are limited to only 2K, which is obviously not enough to post anything. I am not planning on posting 2MB files but reasonable sizes like under 100K. I was going to post in EMT Bravo West's Facebook wall, then link there from here, but you cannot post photos there either. So my question is how can I post any photos here, or is that no longer possible? Thx.

Thank you sir! I will give her a try.

Just tried to upload an attachment (.jpg) that is only 64K, and it says I am not allowed that, the file size limit is 2K.

In Southern California, it seems more agencies are going with the black cab top over red paint scheme on their new fire rigs. Alpine has either been delivered or soon to, their new KME with that paint scheme. I understand Julian Fire also has or is getting a new black over red. Oceanside, Bonita, Rincon, are other agencies. It seems to me in our summer heat the black cab top would be hotter than the traditional red tops or white tops. What is the reason behind this new trend here? Thank you in advance!

Who makes that chassis? I should know, but forget since I've not seen that around in a long time, and not too popular at least in San Diego area. Guessing, is that a Ford. I always liked the older Ford chassis.

Thanks for the clarification.

So is it a water or foam tender? I got confused (may be just me). Thx.

Thanks Casey. Wow, that is a long haul to KLAX, if something happens and lots of rescue is needed. Though I suspect USARs are around and all the trucks carry light rescue gear. Surrounding areas too, like Santa Monica and Long Beach.

And word on where the CFR/ARFF rigs are coming from? And, where is the closest heavy rescue, if you know.

Today, around 2:45p a call was made to 911 for a fire at a senior citizen highrise at 42nd Street and Orange Avenue in City Heights, San Diego City.. The ultimate damage was $700,000 plus. Most the damage ended up being from water. But not too often do we hear of 3 alarms called. But it was today (I suspect due to the tower and elderly evacuations). Here is a list of assignments from the San Diego Fire & Rescue dispatch page. Rescue51. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV B2 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV B3 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV B4 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV B57 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV B6 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV COM1 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV CVB51 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E1 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E10 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E11 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E14 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E17 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E19 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E3 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E31 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E36 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E39 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E5 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E7 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV E9 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV HB3 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV He10 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV He11 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV He13 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV Inv67 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV Inv68 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV Inv69 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV INV77 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV LA40 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV LOGS3 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV M87 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV MC1 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV MS3 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV NCE34 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV OS2 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV OS4 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV PIO2 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV R4 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV SC1 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV SOF1 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV SOF2 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV STAF2 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV T10 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV T11 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV T12 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV T14 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV T20 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV T28 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV Tr8 5/18/2015 2:47:08 PM Structure Highrise/Hospital 42ND ST POLK AV/ORANGE AV USAR53

I'm still going with the old numbering system, but noticed Engine 19 parked outside what might be a renovated house at the corner of North 1st Street & Pepper Drive (southeast quadrant of that intersection). The pumper has no enclosure and is just parked outside the house, so I am not sure if firefighters are working inside their new station (finishing touches) or if 19's is actually really based their now. That can be a busy intersection (4-way stop signs), but noticed it looks like the pumper can enter the property off North 1st or Pepper Dr. Bet the FF's are gonna like their new home compared to the old station on Skid Row (Clarendon St., El Cajon, almost inside the produce department of Vons ) . Thanks to LKSENG3 here for alerting us to the new station, in an earlier post.

San Diego Board of Supervisors expanding rural fire coverage. Interesting. A bird told me s/he thinks the Cuyamaca house of Julian Cuyamaca Fire Protection District (VFD) may end shutting down and leaving it to Cal Fire which recently built their new station immediately next door. Julian would remain open. Julian either recently ordered or took delivery of a new pumper, but I am not certain on details. http://www.countynewscenter.com/news/supervisors-take-steps-expand-rural-fire-coverage You can get the full S.D. Grand Jury report on the back country fire protection from this link (.PDF format): http://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/grandjury/reports/2014-2015/BackCountryFireProtectionReport.pdf Rescue51

"Disposed of" is a bit harsh. They will be retired. This means they will be $old. Just found "disposed of" a bit difficult to handle at this hour, though I know you meant well sir. )

http://m.ramonasentinel.com/news/2015/apr/28/Intermountain-accepts-two-million-calfire-proposal/

Yesterday SDFD had a full response to Montgomery Airport. I never heard any follow-up but believe it was an airplane with landing gear issues that landed safely. If you have ever been interested on the assets responded to just an ALERT-1 (stand-by not a crash) for KMYF, here it is from the SDFD dispatch page: 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End B2 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End Cr28 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End E28 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End E36 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End E45 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End M36 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End PDS 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End SCNOT 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End T28 4/27/2015 6:31:17 PM Alert 1 JOHN J MONTGOMERY DR GIBBS DR/Dead End USAR41 Anyone know what "SCNOT" and "PDS" are?

Thanks 'E0001'!!!

Looks like 4's is getting a new one too. Looks like E4, E33, E35, E47 and E51 all shown with new rigs. https://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemfg/17112914130/

Short rig, single rear axle, for a 107 foot ladder!! Nice! Be interesting to see how she holds up over time. http://www.piercemfg.com/Ascendant

@ buckeyefyrfoto-- I think Arizona is thinking ahead instead of for this year. On using trucks for EMS runs, in a rural community where you may only have staffing adequate for the variable calls that come in, a rig that does it all makes sense (like the MAX, Core, MVP from various manufacturers. In an area like for instance, Heartland Fire & Rescue (El Cajon, La Mesa, Lemon Grove), if you using truck staffing to run a rescue rig/squad/ladder tender, to the EMS runs, and end up getting a structure response (or even rescue where you need the truck because that is carrying the gear), we have enough trucks in the area to cover that response. But if we keep using trucks on the EMS hangnail and 5150 calls, we will wear those trucks out and they will be out-of-service for the next working structure fire. OR, the controllers of funds will get fed-up with truck co$ts and end up in future not capitalizing/budgeting a truck (so we'll have less of them).

@EMT_FS46, true-true. In a perfect world we'd be like the old days like in Santee where they had what was sorta a ladder tender (Light & Air 4), a rescue (which they still have), and many of the East County departments then had rescues that most often were cross-staffed by the truck crew. I think I like the system LA County Fire uses with the squads and then responding a box to the call. Maybe that lacks manpower for the first-in. There is something to be said about have 3-4 firefighters arrive on a call where maybe patient or family are 5150. I'm sure most department chiefs and their respective boards/councils, are all working hard to make every dollar stretch far. I am concerned though because as they wear out trucks, prematurely, due to EMS runs, are they gonna stop replacing the trucks too.

Yesterday I was driving EB on the SR52 in Santee and saw the new San Diego County Fire WT7854 rolling westbound. What a massive machine! Beautiful water tender (with pump). I was trying to do some research on this Ferrara rig and the only thing I am really seeing is references to Intermountain Fire. Is this a Ramona rig? I'm also wondering on the tank capacity (looks to me like it would start with 2,000 gal of water--plus, maybe 2500). There are many compartments so I am wondering if they carry much of the structure gear a pumper does? A funny reference to some photos in Facebook associated to Intermountain Fire & Rescue, to WT7854, says something about multiple crew seating in compartment: "It must be tough for the crew to enter the rear seating area through that roll-up door!" ~Rescue51 https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7341/16398763592_1f5d77da9e_z.jpg

Sorry, thanks for the water capacity goes to 'hewitt.'

'Joeyk48', good points. I agree, though I don't agree with what the city councils, other politicians, fire boards, or whoever, do when it comes to downsizing departments from staffing to rig, and other resources. In El Cajon, Truck 6 (Heartland Fire & Rescue), is a Pierce platform without pump/tank, that became our area's rescue. I am told Truck 6 spends almost as much time down out-of-service as available, because of the maintenance both scheduled and unscheduled. Station 6's is a busy firehouse with a high volume of medical aids. As such, with E6 committed to so many calls, you have T6 rolling on those calls, wearing the rig out. So the issue is our area loses both ladder and rescue capacity every time T6 is tied up on a hangnail, or out-of-service because the poor rig designed to be a ladder for structures or rescue (because it has compartment capacity) is tired out, and it is not even all that old of a rig. To 'h_par202', this would answer your question, that I submit that yes, more weight in form of tools does reduce it's life span. I am not discounting at all the argument that you have all the capacity on a truck, why not use it, or that you already have staffing for it, use it, but I say not at the expense of not having a truck as in T6 from El Cajon. Use a small 4-person cab utility truck like other agencies, that can carry medical and/or rescue gear, and roll that on all the med aids with the truck crew. I bet the cost to replace T6 earlier than needed, will exceed the capital and operating expenses of rolling a small rescue rig on the med aids, or a squad, versus a huge truck. I know, I sound like a parrot on this issue.

Good point 'h_par202'. I suppose the issue becomes basic physics and not having a longer ladder strain the truck side jacks too much, or even turn it over. I suppose the new single-axle Pierce rigs with the 107 foot Ascendant, will solve many problems especially where there is limited maneuverability. The loss of compartment space and putting more weight on the rig (like rescue gear), is actually in my view a plus, to get departments to stop using the trucks for everything (especially medical aid runs). I like the concept Arizona has with the ladder tenders, that can also serve as rescues.