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That's bad news. It sounds like what happened a few years ago during the recession. And things were finally starting to look better the last few years with some fire companies that were cut being restored.

Thanks for your reply Zach. Do you recall before the fire company reductions in around 2009/2010 was it Hazmat Squad 95 or was it Hazmat Squad 48 that didn't have a dedicated crew assigned to it? As I was saying before the manpower and fire company reductions 3 of the 4 Hazmat Squads did have 4 man dedicated crews assigned to them. I know for certain the Squads 4 and 87 did have full crews assigned to them. Another thing that I had noticed is that the Hazmat Squads that have their own dedicated crew assigned to them are also used as manpower Squads within their own district. As Hazmat Squad 21 is the only Squad that currently has a full crew assigned it, it does respond to regular structure fires within it's area which is in Central and South Central Los Angeles.

Why do you ask, did you see any new apparatus that was all red? Is it a rumor? I doesn't seem to make sense to go to all red from red and white which Phoenix has been using for years and seems to be more visible in the long run.

If Ladder 4 or 24 will be getting the ex Miami Tower Ladder then either Ladder 4 or 24's current rig will then need to be reassigned to another Ladder company as their current rigs are relatively new compared to the ALF midmounted Tower Ladders which should be up either for retirement or for reserve status.

San Diego had been using aTDA at Truck 1 however it was always being sent to the shops. Back in the 90s San Diego did have a two Spartan TDAs both a Truck 1 and Truck 35 and that is when they were still painted white over red. before they went to their current color scheme of Red with Gold Trim.

What is your source of the information and wouldn't they have hold a bidding process before any new Ladder or Truck apparatus are ordered? Is that just a preference that was expressed by someone on the Fire Department as usually an open bidding process would decide who the manufacter would be? As you know Phoenix currently runs with 14 Truck companies and all of them use Aerial Platforms. So if they are serious about purchasing straight 100 foot ladders it means that the Aerial Platforms that are in service will be reduced. How many newer Pierce platforms are in service because I believe that there are at least a few newer Platforms that are in service and the ones that would probably be replaced are the Ladder companies that are still using the American La France mid mounted platforms. The information that I have regarding Ladder company assignments might not necessarily be up to date so feel free to correct me as there might be a fifith Pierce Tower Ladder in service. I'm sure that there are people on this site that have more accurate information then I have. According to the information that I have Ladders 1,4,22 and 24 are running with newer Pierce Platforms. So that would still have Ladders 11,12 ,20,26,33,37,41,43 and 50 running with American La France mid mounted platforms and then there is Ladder 9 with the 114 foot Bronto Skylift. I would assume that they would still want to keep Ladder 9 running with a Bronto Skylift however that is only speculation on my part. I personally like the idea of running with Aerial Platforms as opposed to straight Aerial Ladders as it gives you more flexibility then running with a straight Aerial Ladder.

What is a Fit? Are you saying the District Deputy Chiefs will be taking over for the North and South Commanders? Having 5 District Chiefs take over for 2 Commanders doesn't seem to make alot of sense or do the District Chiefs put in normal business hours with them taking turns for night time and weekend runs. Also how are do they current run the North and South Commanders on fires in terms of on what are they dispatched on. For example do they go on a full first alarm working fire or do they wait for a 2nd alarm to be pulled before they are dispatched? Will they be dispatching the District Chiefs in the same way? Thanks

I meant thanks for the information.

Is Rescue Ambulance 55 at the new Station 55 a new company or is it one that was relocated from a different fire station? Also is Rescue Ambulance 55 a full time or a part time unit and if it is part time what are it's on duty hours? Thanks

Thanks RFRD.

That's great news!. i certainly hope that the other Light Forces get restored even if it takes a few years.

Thanks for the information RFRD. So you are saying that if the fire is 5 miles or less from the nearest Squad company the Squad will be dispatched if it is available. If the Squad is located further than 5 miles it won't be dispatched. That is perfectly understandable and the reasoning behind that if the Squad has to travel beyond 5 miles there really isn't much that the Squad can do by the time it arrives. By the information that you stated above it appears that the Squad will go (if less then 5 miles away) automatically with the other units as opposed to waiting to see if it is a confirmed fire, correct? I have another question and that is if the fire is beyond the 5 mile limit for a Squad response will the Squad be dispatched on the a 2nd alarm or will a Squad just not be dispatched at all if the fire goes to a 2nd alarm? Thanks for the good information.

Are the companies at Station 72 numbered as Engine 929 and Squad 29 or did they finally put an Engine 72 in "official" service. If the Engine there is now Engine 72 what about the Squad? Is the Squad there located at 72 and is it called Squad 72 or Squad 29? I know when the station was opened they had to put other companies in service because of the recession but is that still the case in terms of the company numbers?

Stinger I have the same question that you do as I am not from Phoenix however I do believe that the Squads do now go on a first alarm but I don't have any details and someone on this site who is from Phoenix or knows more about the Phoenix fire department could probably help us. Also there are different ways that Squads can be dispatched. Some places wait to confirm a working fire before a Squad will be dispatched while other places will dispatch a Squad company automatically with the first due units. Other places will dispatch Squads only if they are in the first due area or within a designated radius of several miles from their quarters.

While is good information and from a good source it is not totally up to date as if you look up a Heavy Rescue dispatch protocol they only had Squad 8 listed. So this protocol was put together before the 3 current Heavy Duty Squads were put in service. They do have Squad 8 assigned to a full 2nd alarm. However now there is a Squad 44 and technically speaking a Squad 72 even though I understood that it was Squad 29 that was supposed to be temporarily assigned to Station 72. According to what I have there is also not regular Engine 72 but Engine 929 which a temporary assignment until they get funding for an Engine 72 however that may not be up to date either.

I think this response list is not totally up to date is because there is not Squad company that is included in the responses. I would assume the Heavy Rescue's ( Squads) would be due on a working fire unless they need to be special called or need to wait for a full 2nd alarm. Also why would you need both the North and South Deputies on a full first alarm? Wouldn't you just send the Deputy of the part of the city where the fire is located at? What is a CCU and an RH? Also what is C 957 and C 307?

That's great news that Engine 201 is remaining in service. Thanks.

I was wondering what the current Ambulance companies are with the Phoenix fire department, If you have the current list do you have it broken down into the 23 full time and 15 part time units. Also do the part time ambulance put in the same hours and from when to when do they operate? The latest list that I have is 4 years old and is from 2014 and is not accurate either. That is the last Phoenix fire department run summary list that I have and on that list there are only 34 Ambulances even though on the top of the list it claims that there were 37 ambulance in service. It seems that Phoenix hasn't posted an up to date "Run Summary" list for 4 years now. That list also didn't break down which ambulances were part time either. On the annual fact sheet which was for the previous fiscal year of 2017/18 and presumably had ended in July, it claims that the Phoenix fire department was running with 38 ambulances. As I was saying the lists that I have are not accurate and are most likely out of date and as none of them have the full 38 ambulances or "Rescues" listed. Thanks!

So RFRD according to the regular full time and the regular part time ambulances there are 34 and not 38 ambulances in regular service as I counter 24 full time Rescue Unit and 10 partime Rescue Units. Is that correct? Of the Night Time Units the only one that doesn't run during the day (part time) is Rescue 29 as the remaining 5 night time units are also in service during part of the day time as well. Am I correct? Also are the Rescue units that were at Stations 5 and 16 no longer at those locations?

Thank's RFRD. The (3) next to 918 does that mean Rescue 18,918 and LA 18. I understand that LA (low accuity 18) is going to be redesignated shortly. What is the DB1, USA1 and R99,98 97 and 96.? Are the 4 90's series unit special event units or are they surge units that get put in service when there are disasters or extenuating emergenices?

Thank's RFRD. The (3) next to 918 does that mean Rescue 18,918 and LA 18. I understand that LA (low accuity 18) is going to be redesignated shortly. What is the DB1, USA1 and R99,98 97 and 96.? Are the 4 90's series unit special event units or are they surge units that get put in service when there are disasters or extenuating emergenices?

Yes I can see it now thanks.

The photo of the Phoeniz tiller doesn't even show up on my computer. It says JPEG. So that needs to be converted to a PDF to be seen, I have no idea how that is done.

What does ARU mean? I understand what an MRU is or what an LA is but not what the ARU is. Thanks

Thanks for the information Kevin1988. I remember that they were running with Tower Ladder back in the 90's so it's good to hear that they stiil are using one.